wildbloodydragon (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It corners poorly because they've turned a front wheel drive front engine car into a rear wheel drive rear engine car. It has lost its balance completely. The other stuff is irrelevant though, its a just concept car.

hogger129 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I mean it the W12 engine is just better suited for a larger car. I think you would agree. I mean when you stuff it into a GTI, you sort of lose practicality. As he said, the paddles for the gearbox don't work, the switches on the dashboard don't work, the A/C system doesn't work. Then again it is a concept car so maybe they would go and add that once it was put out for sale on the market. He also said it corners poorly. You see it spun out in almost every corner.

hogger129 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

By the way, most competing "luxury" or "executive" cars use V8s. There are a few with V12s and V10s. Such as a few Mercedes models, and the BMW M5. Even now they're coming out with a V8 in the M3. Idk a 12-cylinder is better suited to mid-engine cars. Or sports exotic cars. They DID come out with a version of the Passat with a W12 I believe. Or maybe it's a W8, not sure.

hogger129 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well it would be kind of cool to see an R8 with the twin-turbo 6.0-liter W12. The 4.2-liter that's in it barely breaks 420hp. Originally, Wikipedia says they were going to use the RS6 engine (5-liter V10 TFSI) with 572hp, but it overheated, so maybe the W12 might overheat as well? It says though that Audi is coming out with an R8 with a different version of the V10 from the Gallardo coming out in 2009. Idk it would be cool to see one w/ a W12. W12 is better suited for the R8.

mkben667 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It's rwd because the engine is also in the rear. I think the engine is something for a luxury car you want comfort and strong acceleration from it. The V8 in the R8 I would keep.

hogger129 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

To add to that, it's got 650hp, which is more than plenty for a car that size and maybe a little too much for that car to handle. Plus you gotta think about how it handles. A car like that with a 6-liter twin-turbo W12. Even if the enigne is "mid" mounted, although it looks and sounds more rear mounted, a 6-liter engine has to be pretty heavy. I mean don't get me wrong, they have the right idea here, but I think a 12-cylinder is just the completely wrong engine. V8 would be a little better.

hogger129 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well a car with a 12-cylinder is almost always mid-engined, rwd. In the Golf W12, I'm pretty sure the car is rear-engined, I'm not sure if it's front, rear or all-wheel drive. But you notice it has very little creature comforts, which is something you don't really buy a 12-cylinder car for. I mean it's a "sports car" engine, in a sub-compact car. The engine is just better suited to larger cars such as the A8 or it would be nice to see a version of the R8 with it.

mkben667 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It's a W12 and you get it in the A8 from audi. but I agree with you it's not the right body shape for such a engine.

spearedge9000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

amazing car i wish they make it ill buy like 10 so that i never run out of any!

armyfighter321 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Beautiful car. If they perfect this mix, I'd definitely buy one, especially a 4 door w/ 4motion. I've always liked VWs over Hondas for quality; they should work on their small engines, then rice-burner boys will convert... Hell, why am I even comparing the two? Go VW!