irrelevantfool (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

i agree it's a ghetto

ewd34 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

those who are making big money with rails do care a big effing lot. google for "rails is a guetto" to know more about the bitterness of this matter.

irrelevantfool (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

stop the war between ruby vs php. seriously who effin cares if you like php more than rails, or vice-versa, do your thing and do it well, that's what counts and yes, rails is cool but this video sux just as much as mac ads, as if you needed to have a mac to be cool, lame lame lame, grow up tossers

ConnorAlves (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It almost sounds like you don't know what you're talking about; you can use AJAX on any application really, there is no such thing as "supporting it". Just use a toolkit like jQuery or something and you can make remote calls to any url within your domain you like. PHP itself isn't all too elegant, but when used with a nice framework like codeigniter, it has clean code and is quite powerful. BTW, I have developed in both PHP (my native language), and Ruby (with Rails).

ConnorAlves (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

If you use PHP with any one of the many nice frameworks on the market (Symfony, Codeigniter - my choice, Akelos, cakePHP, etc.), then you can do these database migrations and nice configuration. On another note, I like Rails myselft. I like the nice clean code and it seems that it can be fairly powerful.

VigilanteNighthawk (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I'd trust the makers of these ads a bit more if they could tell the difference between a *cough* language *cough* and a *cough* framework *cough*. Now, for some real fun, lets do web application development in straight Ruby vs straight PHP. Don't get me wrong, Ruby is a nice language, but let's stop comparing apples and bowling balls here.

Tetrix03 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

ruby didnt make it, javascript and php rules

faithm (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

some people are concerned about efficiency and getting a task done and don't care about whether they're leet programmers or not.

macccu (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Hi, im Ruby on Rails and people who use me think they are programmers.

bomberfan99 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

i just started learning php on my own, seems easy. i'm not a programmer within the last 15 years but php is the wild west with no structure just like BASIC on the Tandy 486s. If any of you are even old enough to know what that is. The math functions are brutal. Ruby has to be better. I've programmed a punch card machine how is that for old skool punks!? mofo